Ranger specs

"HammerheadFistpunch" (hammerheadfistpunch) 12/20/2018 at 17:01 • Filed to: Ranger, Ford, Ranger Danger

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They are up including pricing.

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Payload looks good, price is a little high once you add on features.

1560 lbs payload for the one pictured above 4x4 DCSB (Gladiator rubi 1075 - Tacoma DCSB offroad 1175 - Colorado zr2 dcsb 1100 - Colorado z71 1477)

4441 Lbs base curb weight lariat 4x4 supercrew (p.s. supercrew is a stupid name for a 4 door truck)

Angles (app/break/departure) are midpack but decent

28.7/21.5/25.4 (Gladiator rubi 43.6/20.3/26 - Tacoma DCSB off road 32/23. 5/21 - ZR2 30/?/23.5)

Ground clearance isn’t great at 8.9 inches but passable (Gladiator Rubi 11.1 - Tacoma DCSB off road 9.4 - ZR2 double cab 8.9 - Colorado dcsb z71 8.2)

functionoverfashion > HammerheadFistpunch 12/20/2018 at 17:05

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You know, I like it, and if nothing else, I like that *maybe* it will bring down the insane used Tacoma prices. Between this and the Gladiator, and the already-pretty-good Colorado/Canyon, there’s actually a chance. Maybe.

I see a truck of this ilk being my next DD, so I’m hopeful. If I can ever pry myself from my E46 wagon. 

HammerheadFistpunch > functionoverfashion 12/20/2018 at 17:07

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it’sa nice truck and more competition has to be good for the segment

SilentButNotReallyDeadly...killed by G/O Media > HammerheadFistpunch 12/20/2018 at 17:21

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I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again...I wouldn’t own one.

Despite the fact that this is one of the best driving and handling utes out there... perhaps 2nd only to the Amarok. Certainly leaves the Hilux behind...

The high beltline and small glass house constrains visibility from the drivers seat, even for the tallest driver. Tiny wing mirrors don’t help either. And f requent d irt road driving in a fleet situation soon loosened up the previously tight handling and started things creaking...all of this makes the vehicle too annoying to own.

nermal > HammerheadFistpunch 12/20/2018 at 17:31

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In regards to pricing, actual prices paid should be about $5k less than advertised once rebates & dealer discounts hit them. I expect this to ramp up 3-6 months after they are on dealer lots.

For the specs, it seems as though the FX4, although the off-road-y-ist of the Rangers, doesn’t match up with the ZR2 / Rubicon / TRD Pro models. It should match up close to or better than the base 4x4 models of the competition, however.

Also worthy of reminder that the reason the Tacoma has a better breakover angle is because of the stupid sitting-on-the-floor seating position.

HammerheadFistpunch > nermal 12/20/2018 at 17:36

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i wonder how pricing will pan out in the long run

as for specs I don’t compare it to the trd pro, just the trd off road. i do compare to the zr2 but also to the z71. the Rubi is laziness because i couldn’t find the other numbers off hand.

reminder noted though it does make a huge difference off road

HammerheadFistpunch > SilentButNotReallyDeadly...killed by G/O Media 12/20/2018 at 17:42

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i don’t think they changed the visibility issue but i hear the wing  mirrors are North American spec and rated favorably

nermal > HammerheadFistpunch 12/20/2018 at 17:47

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There has to be a sizable amount of discounting built into the base MSRP. These are going to be parked next to F150s advertised for $10k off sticker, so that needs to be taken into account. 

vicali > HammerheadFistpunch 12/20/2018 at 17:50

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Seems like a nice truck, and competition is good, I’ll stick with Toyota..

HammerheadFistpunch > nermal 12/20/2018 at 18:19

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you’d think so but it’s the same story at the Toyota dealership and that don’t budget on  Tacoma pricing. my buddy almost bought a tundra because it would have been slightly less money

arl > HammerheadFistpunch 12/20/2018 at 19:04

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I hope they sell well. Good looking truck. 

jimz > SilentButNotReallyDeadly...killed by G/O Media 12/20/2018 at 19:31

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tell ya what, I have a 2011 (North American) Ranger supercab, and the visibility ain’t that hot.  The rear half doors necessitate thick window frames, and the visibility out the rear windows is pretty much ass.  Yes the new one has a higher belt line but I don’t really see how that amounts to a hill of beans as far as visibility goes unless you’re 3' 6" tall.  

jimz > HammerheadFistpunch 12/20/2018 at 19:34

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I drove one with the 3.2 Duratorq a few years ago, and if they offered that here I’d probably have one right now.  alas, not to be. on the other hand, it was a Thailand model without DPF and SCR so it could afford to be a good bit “peppier” than one which would be EPA compliant. 

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > HammerheadFistpunch 12/20/2018 at 20:03

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Wish there was a single-cab.

HammerheadFistpunch > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 12/20/2018 at 20:38

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it is weird they are only doing a single wheelbase. i guess it doesn't really matter how it compares to other trucks if you want a 4 for long bed.

SilentButNotReallyDeadly...killed by G/O Media > jimz 12/20/2018 at 21:12

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You’ll just have to sit in one then. I’m 6' and the missus is 6'2" and we both had issues - both with over the bonnet and across the A pillars. Most of the other fleet drivers made similar comments. Fleet then started transition to Amarok and the odd Triton (not Hilux as lease cost was too high).

In the end, our opinions don't matter much as Ranger is 2nd most popular new vehicle in Oz behind the Hilux at the moment...but we still wouldn't buy one.

DengrizKB1414 > HammerheadFistpunch 12/20/2018 at 22:18

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Yeah i totally agree. What’s the point of owning a $30k-$40k truck of the bed aka the whole point of the thing isn’t long enough for my skis? Topper and then a roof cargo system? Might as well buy a Subaru Outback at that point. Obviously carrying skis isn’t important for most US buyers but I still can’t comprehend not offering a 5.5ft or 6ft bed. Ford knows it’s market and also knows a thing or two about selling trucks so who am I to say? 

jimz > SilentButNotReallyDeadly...killed by G/O Media 12/21/2018 at 06:41

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I’ve driven about a dozen of them.

SilentButNotReallyDeadly...killed by G/O Media > jimz 12/21/2018 at 07:15

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Well then...what do I know?

jimz > SilentButNotReallyDeadly...killed by G/O Media 12/21/2018 at 07:27

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you know that which works for you. compared to what I’m used to it doesn’t seem much if any worse.

ThePlasticOne - no diggities expressed nor implied. > HammerheadFistpunch 12/21/2018 at 15:16

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Unfortunately single wheelbase has been the Wave of the Future for some time now. Taking all the wheelbase configurations out streamlines production so that only a single frame needs to be produced for up to two vehicles (the truck and the SUV that shares its platform).

Nissan’s F-Alpha platform was used across all of its trucks and SUVs of the mid-2000s: Titan (two wheelbases), Armada, Pathfinder, Frontier (two wheelbases), and Xterra in descending order of wheelbase). While they had a lot of common parts and fitments, they were all produced at the same factory which means that line had to change to accommodate the different wheelbase and frame width (and sometimes length) configurations.

Contemporary midsize pickups and matching SUVs share the exact same frame and wheelbase configuration, except the Tacoma and 4Runner (though the latter shares its platform with the FJ and GX/Prado, AND Toyota pulls the one-frame production style with the Hilux and Fortuner).

M.T. Blake > HammerheadFistpunch 12/21/2018 at 16:21

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What ever happened to a diesel option?! I thought we were going to get the baby Powerstroke but then VW had to go SCREW THE WHOLE THING UP FOR EVERYONE!!!!

HammerheadFistpunch > M.T. Blake 12/21/2018 at 16:52

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nah. the 3.2 was never going to be compliant and the 3.0 is the premium offering and way too much motor for the ranger

HammerheadFistpunch > jimz 12/21/2018 at 18:22

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I hear the 3.2 is a killer motor, well never get it in anything class 2a though, so that’s out.  Too bad as I hear the biturbo 2.0 isn’t a great replacement.